tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post4388813469453733396..comments2023-04-07T09:36:46.772+01:00Comments on San Fran ♥ Belfast: What Do Southies Think of Northies?Flippin' Yankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04622875046958372575noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-44038389116100183762009-08-07T05:49:44.648+01:002009-08-07T05:49:44.648+01:00As far as the whole craic/crack things goes. Most ...As far as the whole craic/crack things goes. Most people north or south use 'craic'. I have never once seen anyone, protestant or catholic write 'crack'.<br />The only reason i can imagine someone going out of their way to point out this difference, and with a name like 'iloveulster' would be for anti-catholic or anti-southern Irish reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-2460479009556868762009-08-06T22:50:45.689+01:002009-08-06T22:50:45.689+01:00Hi
Good see you're surviving Norn Iron. Just ...Hi<br /><br />Good see you're surviving Norn Iron. Just one comment you seem to like using the word craic. It should be crack! Crack is the Norn Iron word for fun and was borrowed into pseudo Gaelic as craic fairly recently. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craic.ILoveUlsternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-54915785596150808632009-03-05T15:12:00.000+00:002009-03-05T15:12:00.000+00:00@JenniferI thought people in the South had a soft ...@Jennifer<BR/><BR/>I thought people in the South had a soft spot for Sinn Fein too until my fiance set me straight. For example, read about <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Robert_McCartney" REL="nofollow"> Robert McCartney</A><BR/><BR/>Their history is really complex and confusing to me, the more I read about the more I'm confused. Maybe it's just me, but gosh it's messy.<BR/><BR/>So many questions and I can't really probe anyone for answers(hence my blog) because politics is a taboo subject here and I wouldn't ask anyone I don't know very well because well...as an outsider they think it's not your place even if you think you have a good grasp of the situation here. It's a topic to be best avoided in casual conversation in my experience. Even my fiance gets annoyed because of my relentless questions. I don't blame him it seems like most people are sick of living in the past and want to move on.<BR/><BR/>It's frustrating because you want to understand. Anyways, I digress...Flippin' Yankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04622875046958372575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-77680707245242970012009-03-05T12:59:00.000+00:002009-03-05T12:59:00.000+00:00Mr Ulster: Thanks, I've done my fair share of ...Mr Ulster: Thanks, I've done my fair share of Wikipedia surfing. I also started reading this book: (http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-History-Ireland-Christine-Kinealy/dp/0750948167/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236257630&sr=8-3)<BR/><BR/>I just had no idea what people in the South hated Sinn Fein? Surely I would have thought folks in the Republic liked Sinn Fein for trying to unite all of Ireland?? Or am I being a naive Canadian??!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655301536976885582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-49439024545767898562009-03-05T12:08:00.000+00:002009-03-05T12:08:00.000+00:00@JenniferYou could do worse than the standard Wiki...@Jennifer<BR/><BR/>You could do worse than the standard Wikipedia page:<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_ireland<BR/><BR/>"Shinners" is a shorthand nickname for Sinn Fein.<BR/><BR/>You'll need to learn more Irish history to comprehend the Southern attitude to Sinn Fein and the IRA.<BR/><BR/>For Northern Ireland, I recommend a small book by Marc Mulholland, "Northern Ireland: A Very Short Introduction":<BR/><BR/>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Northern-Ireland-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0192801562/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236254486&sr=8-1Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17350706179528590465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-7914323074826637002009-03-05T10:32:00.000+00:002009-03-05T10:32:00.000+00:00@Mr. UlsterI'm not even going to comment on your s...@Mr. Ulster<BR/><BR/>I'm not even going to comment on your second paragraph because I would probably write volumes and volumen of questions. I'm currently during research and I am finding the more I read to gain an understanding about the political infrastructure, the more find myself confused. It's like a tangled ball of yarn, I can't unravel. LOL!<BR/><BR/>As for Northern Ireland, The North, 6 Counties, etc. I notice you have to walk around eggshells when it comes to semantics. Some people are passionately sensitive about it. Another example would be Derry, Londonderry, Stroke City. As an outsider it's out of hand and ridiculous. But that's just the way it is.<BR/><BR/>I wonder how people in Donegal feel. I mean logistically they are located in the North of Ireland yet they are part of the Republic.Flippin' Yankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04622875046958372575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-53397726858912102132009-03-05T10:22:00.000+00:002009-03-05T10:22:00.000+00:00@JenniferI've known a few Canadians who knew how t...@Jennifer<BR/><BR/>I've known a few Canadians who knew how to party! They can certainly handle their drinks better than I can. We're weak in that department.<BR/><BR/>Hope you have a blast in Belfast! You'll either love it or hate it. No in between. I'll be curious to hear your perspective when you come back.:)Flippin' Yankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04622875046958372575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-89509835883135109622009-03-05T10:18:00.000+00:002009-03-05T10:18:00.000+00:00MR Ulster - Who are "Shinners" and why do people i...MR Ulster - Who are "Shinners" and why do people in the South hate them? <BR/><BR/>Coming over to Belfast tomorrow to meet family and I need a tuturial on current politics! Ha!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655301536976885582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-89917634798077410932009-03-05T09:32:00.000+00:002009-03-05T09:32:00.000+00:00Yes, an apt analogy of the rambunctious children i...Yes, an apt analogy of the rambunctious children in the upstairs bedroom. Reminds me of the time, while living in the South, hearing on the radio, "The North. Ah, the North. Like the poor... (always with us)."<BR/><BR/>On a more serious note, Northern Nationalists, of course, resent this attitude. The SDLP worked hard to get Southerners to bind themselves with Northern Nationalists (think of New Ireland Forum, 1983). And Sinn Fein, of course, has always maintained one island, one nation theory. (Yet the Shinners are still on a steep learning curve when it comes to understanding Southerners, who mainly hate their guts.)<BR/><BR/>BTW, if you're knowingly talking to an Irishman, safer to say "the North" or "Northern Ireland", than "United Kingdom" (which could be construed as a Unionist statement, unless, of course, that's your intention!). "Six counties" is the reciprocal Irish republican statement. You can't really go wrong with "Northern Ireland", which I still use on international letters, etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17350706179528590465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9140005953803793903.post-857796693502929372009-03-05T08:36:00.000+00:002009-03-05T08:36:00.000+00:00Ha! Nice analogy! Although I would argue that Cana...Ha! Nice analogy! Although I would argue that Canadians think of Americans as their rambunctious cousins who love a good time, while we're the boring aunts and uncles, who like peace and quiet. Not that Canada is boring!<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, I was speaking to someone from R. of Ireland the other day and he said that he didn't recognise the North?! He called it the six counties or something!?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I am coming over to Belfast tomorrow and cannot wait!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655301536976885582noreply@blogger.com